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Surviving Keto Flu and Other Questions – Healthy Ketogenic Diet

hello everyone welcome to Mind Blowing Health and Wellness with Violet Pat Chat edition I'm Violet and I'm Pat we're bringing you more your comments this week so patrick has some more comments that he found very interesting so we're going to talk about them again today that's good with comments a few comments on on our 10 ketone myths video that we made a few weeks ago so the first one from an angel magnet loved the discussion learned so much thank you welcome one question about the key to flu I thought the electrolyte imbalance was the issue in fact never thought never even thought that about being carb withdrawal thanks for that by the way yeah it was pretty icky at the beginning of keto and one meal a day oh yes I'm a wellness warrior so so yeah maybe like just like a flu is it like the end of the world so it seems like most people have a keto food for approximately two days that's the first thing 2 to 3 days so the electrolyte imbalance is part of it and I again as you go through and you learn more and more things so apparently the electrolyte imbalance causes part of it however the part that gets ignored is all the nausea all the heating up and like that feeling of like the flu and like anybody who and and you know I'm certain that most people doing can't drink lifestyle have no idea what I'm talking about because sugar is the only thing you've ever picked it seemed so you wouldn't know this but like when you look up the symptoms for withdrawal from cocaine withdrawal from marrow and marijuana less but this drawl from alcohol you see these symptoms the senses are the same so you are going through withdrawal however the thing that I find interesting is that there's certain elements like the headachy part the electrolytes and really those seem to help with that so there are some parts of it that seems to be that electrolyte imbalance that happens while you're transitioning well we can from the fact that you're in engaging situation is there a way to ease to ease your way what I find interesting is that some people actually seem to have very little symptoms but I when you talk to those people what I do find interesting because I've had a few different clients who told me they didn't really seem to have that big but they were people who already didn't really eat much like junk food so although they did eat a lot of like they would eat rice pasta that like they did eat those things but the junk food so I'm wondering now like is there something specific about refined carbohydrates and that which are all cut you end up living but I'm not a hundred percent sure all I do know is some people they seem to go do really well there's a lot of people also that have a lot of success with like slowly tapering down the thing about that though you need to know your personality to do that you really would need to be one of those people that could withstand constant cravings over long periods of time because when you eat slow down so when you kind of ease in taketo what happens is that you end up instead of getting through all your cravings in like well the bulk I'll say the bulk of your cravings within the first five days and then by two weeks being completely craving free you can end up being in that situation for months really kind of want to eat it kind of want to eat it but you kind of you know laying for months because you're slowly slowly taking one foot out taking another foot out taking right but I mean if your personality allows for that because some people they do like some people can really they can manage that idea because they're also feeling better mmm-hmm so if you're if you have one of those personnel go for do it in the way that's gonna be easiest for you okay Cindy issue I'd have to evaluate the doctor Darren Schmitt Delta to Dan schmidt also says that I put in won't kick you out of ketosis years on keto tautomer very interesting theory has so I did find that comment interesting because we know if we overeat protein there's that gluconeogenesis can happen that can happen so so yes does that mean that a carnivore like die diet or carnivore eater is not in ketosis so the thing that we need to be careful about is exactly the definition if I overeat anything I'm gonna be in trouble so of course if you over eat protein yes you're gonna get kicked out of ketosis that's that's just normal if I overeat it the thing is if I eat a normal amount of protein for me I will not be kicked out of ketosis my body will use it for what it's meant to be used for your body does not use protein for energy even if it doesn't have to like protein like the conversion from protein to energy is not an efficient way of fueling the body right and I like to I like to like compare it to you really wouldn't go and like buy wood for your fireplace and then when it's time to actually heat your house burn the kitchen table right like it wouldn't make sense that's wasting a kitchen table right and buying back the kitchen table much more expensive than buying back some wood right so it's the same kind of idea when you eat protein those are building blocks to build your body to to replace things that need to be replaced and your body isn't looking to use those for energy so it but it will convert protein to energy if it needed to so for example if you're doing a carnivore lifestyle so therefore you're not eating any carbs whenever you do need some carbs your body is gonna go in and take what it needs and so therefore it's gonna of course sometimes protein is gonna be grabbed for that process so basically if you have a diet of 2,000 calories per day and you need your 2,000 calories I mean mostly you're gonna be fine if you eat 3000 calories of me then I guess you might have to show a number but yeah yeah the excess amounts of energy your body will convert store but you know the other thing is to keep in mind and actually just just you saying that just made me people something else so don't forget that even me eyyy eyyy carbs right I do keto my body will still do some level of gluconeogenesis right because there are times when I'm not eating like I do one meal a day so there are times when I'm not eating am I and let's say I worked out this morning so my one meal a day is usually at around 8 o'clock and I worked out this morning well my glycogen stores are gonna be lower it's what's gonna happen my body's gonna replace that right so it there are times when your body just naturally does it as well so I I think that sometimes we get concerned about ideas that we hear when we don't really understand that these are processes that our body does naturally normally but your body is not gonna do them unnecessarily if I've got enough carbs in my body to fuel me you know the scary thing I've enough carbs in my body to feel me and I overeat my protein is probably gonna get sort of stuck before every 4 it's gonna get like you know I mean like your body's gonna put it away because you didn't need it yeah so you know Jay sister-sister I've stopped draining the fat off when I cook hamburgers and while we tasted good yeah that's right that's how you get more fat in your diet basically you you you you you prefer the fatty part of the meats I remember when I used to grill burgers and I used to like squeeze on those obviously the the animal fats are gonna be healthier for you so we're taking the assumption that you're buying the best quality of meat that you can afford so those animal fats is good for you yeah and it's you know what it's already there it's easy right I'm having to add extra fat yeah so if the true stories II like even when you're at the grocery store like you pick up the the the like if you eat beef like the one that has more like white lines in and they're they're usually much much much better than the lean okay comments on our video about the keto starter kit so all the accessories and stuff like what your your your essentials for going keto that was a an interesting video I was varied from from Cindy Hsu again thanks Cindy I was very tempted to buy a ketone measuring tool I felt I will be okay if I did if I did I felt I would be obsessed with the number so I didn't purchase one yeah dude do we need like the keep on measuring tools actually we even in Canada us I don't I don't know if they're they've like there's they are allowed I didn't find one in any pharmacy or online so probably like Health Canada didn't improve them but yes about keto measuring tools and you can there's on the breath one that you can blow into there's this the sticks that you pee on too and then there's the blood tube right now so the thing that I find unfortunate is that it seems to be a way to get money out of Exeter because well first of all the ones that you pee on what and the one that you blow into so both of those you're you're measuring the access so when my body first starts using ketones for fuel it's not efficient so there's excess and of course you pee them out you breathe them out right that's a normal process so when we can actually see them in our urine but here's the thing and after a few months of doing keto you stop having excess your body becomes efficient at using them so then I see people that they're like why isn't it turning the color and like they're getting all obsessed with that in this like it's not to really focus doesn't eat to your body is efficient so you know it's like when you first learn to cook you turn on the stove and you usually have it on too hot mmm what happens right you have to move around like you're taking this thought the pan off the solar on just over each other right like you're wasting heat until eventually you learn to turn the stove right and then you're not wasting Heat right you cook more efficiently and there's less waste and it's the same kind of thing here is like you need to understand that now the one that works consistently is the blood measuring and but the thing is for me even with that like that's unless you're specifically trying to keep a number for example because of epilepsy or because of maybe Parkinson's or some quite like unless you're trying to keep a specific number because you have a medical issue that you're really trying to to keep your ketones at a certain amount it's unnecessary right the thing that we know and what you should be measuring is how many carbs you're eating right if you keep that number low chances are you're in ketosis is probably as if you track everything you know everything you track everything and you can have a specially to have a good idea yeah you're gonna have a good idea because you're gonna see that you're under 20 and if you really want to be sure the further under 20 you are the more chance you are this you're in ketosis so but you know if you're not ready to spend and you like to get the numbers that's fine too but like Cindy saying and I can we get a little obsessed with those numbers I for sure know I probably could have and for the newcomers to the the keto world how long does it take like when you start how long does it take to be in full ketosis after like how many days of being 20 I would say for most people within a week you're gonna be there within a week if like if you really do 20 or less for seven days usually if I remember like for myself it was by the fourth like going into the fifth day my Kido flu was gone so it was that two days so I had to okay days two horrible days and then I was fine so probably around there I was starting to be in ketosis and for most people it's yet somewhere around the next few days after that if not that day right so and most people seem to be like day three day three or four that they start getting that keto foolish type of thing if you don't end up getting heat or cool because some people don't need me I would probably say like within a week you're probably if you're eating 20 grams or less but the the reason that some people don't find themselves being in ketosis after a week my observations is because they're not measuring their food and they think they're eating 20 grams or less but when you actually like pull up the scale weigh the food and actually do the calculations they're not and and I would say like do that for a good what maybe a good six months like yeah just like I know it's gonna be a bit more work but like especially at the beginning like you need to get back to be to be used to the the serving size how many how much is 125 grams of something you need to to to kind of relearn like to think to get a better a better understanding of like what's the serving of what food so so good six months and after that you can go like I don't measure my food anymore like like we know what we eat we have our and the reason I say six months I actually did it for you but the reason I say six months to a year is because that's a year it's a worth of time is really enough time so six months to a year whatever you start to know how much to put on the plate right and like I I did find for myself that because because I was doing some experimenting with vegetables that this is but this is my story now because when I started keto I didn't eat a lot of different vegetables so I was trying different things so through that year there were so many different vegetables I was trying I always have to be measuring cuz I really wasn't sure how much of what I could have of wedding right so and I still say that even today there's sometimes I'm gonna go eat something and I will measure cuz I can't remember like how much of that am I allowed to have so I'll measure it just to be sure because I do eat one meal a day so like that serving is gonna be my carbs for the day so I often roll will just verify again with myself quickly and and the other thing that i will say i religiously measure is any snacks so so if I have a nuts at the end of my meal or if I have some cheese with my meal those things I measure because it's so easy to put 45 grams and you think you're putting 30 a like it's such a small amount and so it's so much density of carbon carbs that those things I measure because it takes honestly it takes 30 seconds to measure some that's a measure but you don't track anymore I know how much B yeah I know how much I can have because I I'm again I know what I'm allowed to eat for the meal the meal that I had I know how much cars was in it so that I know how much nuts I can have yeah if I decide to have nuts a day with that meal or if I decide to have cheese with that meal like so I don't know like okay I'm having a salad I can have this much cheese but then I will say okay so that's how much she's I'm having right and the thing when you do that for yourself like I said it's so easy to think you put 40 30 grams and you put 40 or 60 it's such a small difference when you're looking at it with your eyes bowing your way at you see it for sure same thing with when we put our cream in our coffee we still we still won't measure that to I mean like like just to pour a little pour like gets you to a quarter cup super easy yeah so like it's not like the cream in our coffee we also still measure either with a measuring thing or with a weight like we measure so there's certain things we still measure and we're like more than a year in right and getting close to yeah you're like getting closer year and a half and it's it's because it just makes sense right like if I have the ability to weigh it or measure I do if I'm at Starbucks and I'm getting a coffee and they give me the cream I'm not weighing it obviously right I'm gonna pour I'm gonna if that day I go over it's one day I don't go to Starbucks every day right but like if I'm at home and I can met whenever I can do it I do it because it's just better for me as I said in that previous video I do what's better for me yeah every time okay let's go to the common okay hello violin Pat thanks for input you're welcome I do believe that companies we were talking about like companies that are putting keto on their product like yourself like keto stuff so if I may educate it as you and some others might be and okay immediate the assurance from a ketone meter that we're in ketosis like we just talked about that take me for example I have been very low carb either less than 15% daily I want to get back on that for months but still find that on some days I test and find my reading shows that I am not in ketosis so instead of a novice say of a 16-8 fast I have to do a 24 a 24 split so 20 hours passed for hours eating window to get in ketosis the okay so the key the ketone meter up so this is the case where the down metres helps that that person but like I'm just like the 15% like seems to me that's like over a 2,000 calorie diet that's a little bit high in grams of there's more than one way one way is to eat low carb another way is to exactly he's not getting into ketosis because of his way of eating he's pushing himself out of ketosis because of the way we do actually to get into ketosis what he should do is Lauren is 15% to 2,000 calories 10% is 20 so to Annie 40 light that's 50 grams of carbs so he might just be a little bit like – it's too high on the carbs so you really need to try to get closer to the 20 so 15% and even at that I'm not really sure yeah that's what I'm just gonna say I'm not even sure if it's a 15 percent came from mm-hm usually when you do keto it's 5% so I'm not sure I mean I'm certain I did answer this question in writing but my point right now would be to say that when you are doing a ketogenic lifestyle um I don't like dealing with percentages because there's a bunch of different reasons but I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you this one cuz this one to me is the most clear I'm gonna make supper tonight whatever I put on my plate if I were to do the calorie count on it and then take a percentage of that I'm gonna get a number and tomorrow I'm gonna make a plate and guess what the calorie count is gonna be different and the next time I make a plate and the calorie counts gonna be different and the next time I make a plate and again and so what's happening there every time I'm doing my percentage the number is gonna be them versus if I say 20 grams of carbs or less it doesn't matter what I'm making for dinner I take the amount of carbs that makes me 20 grams of carbs or less and that's what you should be aiming it 20 grams of carbs or less and that's why calories are not important in that that situation because if you're not spiking your insulin you're not storing your element you're eliminating the the extra so we have a bunch of youtuber that did like calorie meal experiment since months on end and they didn't gain weight yeah because their their carbon take was expose it so yeah I really feel like the thing that I try to make sure that people understand is that the what makes keto work is taking your carb count low it's not about raising fat is not about raising protein your protein actually should stay the same from before year whatever that you're doing before so if you were eating the right amount of protein you should keep eating that right amount of protein what makes keto work is 20 grams of carbs or less so take with a grain of salt every reference every article that will say you need a calorie deficit if you do a calorie deficit you're just gonna starve yourself like you don't you do you can't or you can starve yourself thank you you need 1,200 calories if like your body should work with with 2,000 then you're gonna start it's not gonna work the other thing I'm gonna point out and I feel like you know what I'm saying this out loud because I want people to really change the way they think about sugar so I'm gonna say this a lot if you think about sugar that 20 grams of carbs or left so that space that's what you're aiming at right it'd be the same thing as if the doctor says to me violet you're allergic to peanuts don't eat them does it matter if I eat one peanut or 100 peanuts right I'm gonna have a reaction like there's something about sure that once you pass that threshold we have the reaction of no longer being in ketosis right and you have to look at it that way it's it's a maximum now again everybody's different yes do you have those people who could do 50 grams of carbs and still be in ketosis I understand that that's not my point my point is that when you think about peanuts there are some people that they can't eat them but if they smell them they're fine there's other people if they smell them they're having a reaction what's the answer to that stay away from nuts mm-hmm right see again everybody's different but at the end of the day if something is harming you it's harming you and I want people to start thinking about this differently because you wouldn't say to somebody off one peanut when you know they're allergic to nuts right or you wouldn't like put your hands in the Knutson to the right like you're gonna you're gonna kill this person right you wouldn't do it right but we do oh it's just a little bit of oh it's just a bit of candy oh it's just no I know I have a reaction let's go with a comment about our article on carb loading we did an article we our video on carb loading because we didn't like do we didn't agree with like carb loading and we didn't like find that it was necessary healthy so I was okay so I'm wondering the same thing as you well I'd like to the marathon okay I would do the marathon runners access their stored fats once the glycogen stores have gone seems like carb loading should athens a few hours before my return instead of a day or two prior so like there's still like sometimes like your system needs to process the food you you you eat so so like a few well we would say it depends but like probably at least like 4/10 one maybe here's the thing when you most people when they're talking about carb loading from what we figured out what in that video was they're talking about a meal that's high in carbon like we need to make our distinction that's easily easily accessible easily processed by you so we need to make the distinction between that which is still food that your body has to digest before it can get to those things and like drinking something that's a bit faster absorb or like those little pouches that they take on the runs that's a bit faster absorb but at the end of the day it still has to pass through your system right but the thing is it it's easier for that to pass because there's not much to it right your body doesn't have as much to break down so that's part one but the other thing I would say is that part of the reason that we don't agree so I don't need to agree carb-loading if you're gonna do it you're the thing that we tried to point out that doesn't make sense is that your body works a certain way and this again goes back to can't make me behave differently because we wanted to behave differently food functions a certain way if I eat a meal it has to pass through my system and get so it has to pass out of my stomach into my intestines through my intestines and then out into my body and that process takes about four hours but then my body's gonna take that and it's gonna convert it to stuff and use it so usually whatever energy were using yes it did come from the day before it just it just the way it works right your body is kind of always cycling stuff I don't know that even if they even if they did carb load the day before the problem is that when you deplete that 2,000 calories in that run that food that you ate yesterday got stored mmm it still likes to get pulled up storage so yes you can access your fat stores first of all like every person can the only thing is that runners and other athletes who these they long endurance have the risk of hitting the runner's wall which means that their body needed to access but could not because they're not used to accessing it on a regular basis there are a lot of runners that forced themselves into that situation so their body gets used to doing it but you still see them at the end of the race there they look dizzy they look disoriented because at the end of the day there's so many carbs but they eat on a regular basis that their body is not fat adapted so it's still pulling that fat out resistant ly right because it really wants you to go eat that's what it's looking for them to do go eat something right but your body is also not gonna kill herself right so it's gonna pull some fat up and it's the same situation I had a fun fun discussion discussion with my colleague a few weeks ago that like in his in his mind he had to have like a big car be lunch before because he's a gym like he is a gym buff he likes to go to the gym like almost every day's week but like in his mind he couldn't go to gym like on an empty stomach because in his mind the energy from his meal just like an hour before going to the gym so we need to need to break that idea that because they're they're two different system so yeah they hit there are two different systems and I obviously he's not paying attention to them yet before song about generating energy lake yeah this minute and even with that like that's kind of that that's really some kind of interesting thinking because I just ate it it's still in my stomach yeah so you kind of wonder actually what I would say there is he's actually putting himself in a position where he's gonna get less of a good workout because when my body is processing food and now I'm trying to divert and energy to muscle building it's incompatible again there's a lot of doctors talking about this is like you want to workout faster damn good week alright like he's working out on food it's he would have he would would be so much more what he wants to be if he was working out fast it yeah because again your body's not gonna leave it sit there doesn't make it easy either yeah those are some really interesting comments I really like that you guys comment on my videos and gives us an opportunity to talk to you about things that you said which is really cool if you would like to be in the comments that we're gonna do this I think we're gonna make this and some questions yeah so put your questions and ideas in the comment section and obviously the ones that we find spark a good conversation we're gonna we will talk about me I want to thank you for watching I'm gonna stop there so it's ridiculous that I can never remember to say that if you are new here please consider subscribing all my wellness worries I love that you're here and anyone who might want to contribute to the production of some of these videos I have a patreon account its patreoncom/VioletReveira you can go there all the informations there I want to thank you for watching Mind Blowing Health and Wellness with Violet Pat Chat Edition see you next time see you next time

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